Jon & Vinny’s defense of 18% ‘service fee’ makes no sense to readers


In every week the place the U.S. Supreme Court docket struck down affirmative motion in faculty admissions, dominated that marriage ceremony web site designers can flip away same-sex {couples} and scuttled the Biden administration’s scholar mortgage forgiveness program, the difficulty that has drawn a few of the most impassioned responses from readers has been … restaurant service charges?

It’s straightforward to grasp why: In accordance with a report in The Instances on a lawsuit involving the favored Italian restaurant mini-chain Jon & Vinny’s, diners are confused by the 18% price tacked on to each invoice, and servers are fed up by the decrease suggestions they’ve been receiving because of this. One other group is also fed up: Instances letters writers, who’ve beforehand expressed their frustration with American tipping tradition and now are revolting towards tacked-on charges at eating places.

I see this deluge because the dam breaking on a difficulty that has been slowly constructing strain for some time. Individuals have lengthy complained about pricing opacity and being requested for a tip at seemingly each alternative (see what occurs now if you order a Eating regimen Coke at Dodger Stadium). Now that The Instances and different media are catching on — and staff at one restaurant are suing over a service cost — the flood of letters has arrived.

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To the editor: I’m only a nation lawyer with a regulation diploma from a small faculty within the San Francisco Bay Space at the moment often known as Berkeley Regulation. However after studying this entire article I nonetheless don’t see what the18% price added to the restaurant invoice at Jon & Vinny’s pays for.

I’ve seen the same price added in eating places within the Bay Space, the place I used to be instructed it paid for well being advantages for the restaurant’s workers. It actually does appear like a tip. If it’s a tip shared with all nonsalaried workers, that must be spelled out.

It appears just like the restaurant house owners are being purposely fuzzy about how a lot their pizzas price, they usually’re doing it on the expense of the staff. Couldn’t the restaurant might simply pay an inexpensive wage to its workers?

Erica Hahn, Monrovia

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To the editor: Two issues are going to occur if I ever see a service cost on my invoice.

First, I’ll take into account it a tip, and second, I’ll by no means return to that restaurant once more.

If eating places want extra money, they need to increase their costs. Don’t nickel and dime your clients.

James Tyner, Venice

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To the editor: The impact of “service charges” on workers’ revenue is just one aspect of the issue.

What if supermarkets begin including “service charges” at checkout? Or if retailers like Goal or Amazon begin doing it? Would you complain about an 18% “service price” added to the cardboard you used to pump that gasoline? Your financial institution would love to have the ability to add an 18% price on each transaction.

No matter occurred to fact in promoting? That $28 entree on the menu ought to price you $28, not $33.04.

Douglas Marshall, Bell

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To the editor: I doubt very many shoppers know they are going to be hit with a service price when ordering from these institutions. It’s very deceitful to say the least.

I first seen this service-charge mannequin just a few years in the past at our native Pizza Hut, which tacked on a price on the finish of my order to cowl the “elevated price of operations within the state of California.” The $16.99 marketed medium pizza is $18.43 if you add the service price.

I would like the next upfront value with out the made-up service price tacked on on the finish. It’s easy: Simply cost extra if you could pay your workers extra as a substitute of placing it on the shopper on the finish of the invoice. It should additionally keep away from confusions for patrons who would in any other case go away a tip.

Joe Gartner, San Juan Capistrano

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To the editor: I’ve a suggestion for restaurateurs Jon Shook, Vinny Dotolo and Helen Johannesen to resolve the dispute Jon & Vinny’s is having with former and present worker: Increase your costs 18% and distribute the extra cash nevertheless you select.

That approach, your clients know the way a lot they’re paying for meals and might decide how a lot servers have earned, and nobody feels cheated or misled.

I’ve by no means eaten at a Jon & Vinny’s, however I don’t assume I’d realizing that I’m both paying 18% above menu costs or dishonest a server out of well-deserved revenue.

Liz White, Los Angeles

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To the editor: I’ve learn the “service cost” line on restaurant payments as a required tip, however now I perceive that it’s truly a “cowl cost” — a value for being served, interval.

Eating places that add a service cost to their payments ought to embrace that data on their web sites and menus and make clear that it’s not a gratuity.

Susan Wilson, Pasadena